Taylor Swift may be TIME‘s Person of the Year, Billboard‘s biggest pop star of 2023 and one of Forbes‘ most powerful billionaire women in the world, but when it comes to Abby Lee Miller, the pop star is at the bottom of the dance pyramid.

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“Taylor Swift is pigeon-toed,” the brazen dance coach/reality star recently said on her Leave it On the Dance Floor podcast in conversation with model Crystal Hefner. “And her boyfriend is a much better dancer. Let’s leave it at that.”

“I don’t think she’s worried about it,” Miller continued, laughing. “I don’t think that’s her top priority right now. However, I think she does probably think that she should have danced as a kid. You know, they had her slumped over that guitar playing.”

Swift, of course, is dating Kansas City Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce, who occasionally busts a move after scoring a touchdown. The “Anti-Hero” singer has been open in the past about her awkward dance abilities; however, her three-hour Eras Tour trek includes several choreographed numbers. “Learning choreography is not my strong suit,” she told TIME for her Person of the Year cover story.

“Everyone can benefit from a class with me 😉,” the Dance Moms star captioned a TikTok snippet of the podcast conversation. “I’ve seen clips of @Taylor Swift’s boyfriend, @Travis Kelce dancing it up both on the field and off. I think he’s a natural! Most football players like to show off! He’s a showman with swagger at heart!”

See Miller’s TikTok below:

@aldctherealabbylee

Everyone can benefit from a class with me 😉 I’ve seen clips of @Taylor Swift’s boyfriend, @Travis Kelce dancing it up both on the field and off. I think he’s a natural! Most football players like to show off! He’s a showman with swagger at heart! ✨🎙️ #LeaveItOnTheDanceFloor #aldc #aldcalways #hurrdatmedia #abbylee #abbyleemiller #dancemoms #madhouse #dancemomsclips #leaveitonthedancefloorpodcast #taylorswift #traviskelce #dancemomsedit #dancemomstok

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